DN $3500 demand

[surfinisfun]

Be very careful what you post....



I'd hate to the site get in trouble or you yourself. This guy is an attorney so its probably best not to post that out in the open. He'll be all over that like a pitbull on a poodle if he finds out.

Just an FYI.

Thats good advise sod, he could however post that he was helpful and if anyone has similar issues contact him.

[skyline68]

just by making a donation is illegal already? Don't it needs to be caught red handed in order to be guilty. Anyone care to comment?

[fifties]

Originally Posted by norm155
I will post the info later of what i got from gary ruff
Be very careful what you post...

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Gary Ruff; all rights reserved. May not be reproduced in any form without the express permission of the author, except that “links” to the site are permitted. Contact author at 631.390.8338.

I'd hate to the site get in trouble or you yourself. This guy is an attorney so its probably best not to post that out in the open. He'll be all over that like a pitbull on a poodle if he finds out.

Just an FYI.

this is magi's attorney

hxxp://www.corporationwiki.com/Texas/Gilmer/nelson-associates-attorneys-at-law-pc/108324713.aspx

OK, let's not muddy the waters here. I had posted a question asking if the out of court settlement with DN had cost Magi anything, and norm155 posted that he had gotten the info from Gary Ruff.

I am unclear if the info he had received was the same as was used in the Magi case. If it was, and if it indeed helped Magi avoid paying anything, then it should definitely not be posted in the open. That said, if what Gary Ruff offers works in this manner, then that fact only -that his method works- should just as definitely be posted.

[Hannibalector]

So two cases of dismissal now, Magi and Dames, same dismissals, Nelson and associates for Magi, Faudlin Pierre for Dames

[sodusme]

OK, let's not muddy the waters here. I had posted a question asking if the out of court settlement with DN had cost Magi anything, and norm155 posted that he had gotten the info from Gary Ruff.

I am unclear if the info he had received was the same as was used in the Magi case. If it was, and if it indeed helped Magi avoid paying anything, then it should definitely not be posted in the open. That said, if what Gary Ruff offers works in this manner, then that fact only -that his method works- should just as definitely be posted.

I'm not trying to muddy anything but when the guy says:

I will post the info later of what i got from gary ruff

that leads me to believe that he's going to post 'the information' which he purchased from Gary's site....and that would be a no-no. To my knowledge its not the same info. its two different attorneys so why would it be? Gary Ruff runs a website that I posted on here and a couple other sites. He specializes in copyright infringement and satellite theft. He offers for sale 'information' on his site:

http://www.piratecardblues.com

for $49.00 to help you answer this demand letter without actually retaining him. I'm sure that some of the information parallels Magi's attorneys information but its not the same either. And unless norm has actually used the information he isn't going to have any first hand knowledge of whether it works or not anyways.

Saying that his 'method works' is totally different then posting the 'information'. Lets not split hairs here. If he wants to post 'it appears to work and is a good purchase' that's obviously fine. But I'm willing to bet that the powers that be don't want a disgruntled attorney going after this site 'cause some guy decided he was going to re-post in part or in whole what amounts to copyrighted information.

Use your head here people I don't think anyone wants to p!ss off an attorney and have him head hunting on here.

[alex70olds]

So two cases of dismissal now, Magi and Dames, same dismissals, Nelson and associates for Magi, Faudlin Pierre for Dames

The Dames case was the one GS2 and I were discussing earlier here on what constitutes a "Shotgun pleading". This is a DA case where they had server logs of Defendant's IP connecting to Justin's server. The Defendant also claimed that the mere posession of a "Code" does not in itself constitute a violation. Here are the relevant Docs, hope it can help somebody.

Dames Complaint.pdf
Dames motion to dismiss.pdf
Dames plaintiff oposition to Motion to Dismiss.pdf
Dames Stipulated Motion to Dismiss.pdf

I tried my best to keep them in order.

[Gomez]

OK guys, here's the story....
Gary Ruff's $49 package was a waste of my money...I have it right here in front of me. His advice....pay the $3500 and hope they don't take you to court. I would put it up here, but he would probably sue me too......but I did manage to save it in a renamed PDF file
So, if you have "the letter", don't waste your time or money on Gary Ruff, put it towards your EchoStar bill, and don't do it again. I know I won't. I'll be watchin' a lot of crap with rabbit ears for awhile...till something safer comes along. Apple TV, Roku?

[alex70olds]

OK guys, here's the story....
Gary Ruff's $49 package was a waste of my money...I have it right here in front of me. His advice....pay the $3500 and hope they don't take you to court. I would put it up here, but he would probably sue me too......but I did manage to save it in a renamed PDF file
So, if you have "the letter", don't waste your time or money on Gary Ruff, put it towards your EchoStar bill, and don't do it again. I know I won't. I'll be watchin' a lot of crap with rabbit ears for awhile...till something safer comes along. Apple TV, Roku?

I have the jynxbox android. There are a lot of apps like XMBC that offer a legal alternative to piracy or the exorbinant high prices of cable or satellite. Homer has a lot of great reviews and how to's posted. Good luck to you!

[sodusme]

OK guys, here's the story....
Gary Ruff's $49 package was a waste of my money...I have it right here in front of me. His advice....pay the $3500 and hope they don't take you to court. I would put it up here, but he would probably sue me too......but I did manage to save it in a renamed PDF file
So, if you have "the letter", don't waste your time or money on Gary Ruff, put it towards your EchoStar bill, and don't do it again. I know I won't. I'll be watchin' a lot of crap with rabbit ears for awhile...till something safer comes along. Apple TV, Roku?

You did ask him for a refund right? LOL I know I sure as hell would.

Hell I could give that advice and I'll only charge $19.99....and if you act in the next 15 minutes I'll double the offer, but that's not all, I'll also throw in my free "how to hypnotize a chimpanzee" VHS cassette.

[Anubis]

You did ask him for a refund right? LOL I know I should as hell would.

Hell I could give that advice and I'll only charge $19.99....and if you act in the next 15 minutes I'll double the offer, but that's not all, I'll also throw in my free "how to hypnotize a chimpanzee" VHS cassette.

I'm in on your deal. I hear the VHS tape is quite the collectors item nowadays.

[Gomez]

Hummm, that monkey tape sounds interesting.

[pugsycan]

You dont have it in Beta do you

You did ask him for a refund right? LOL I know I should as hell would.

Hell I could give that advice and I'll only charge $19.99....and if you act in the next 15 minutes I'll double the offer, but that's not all, I'll also throw in my free "how to hypnotize a chimpanzee" VHS cassette.

[Gomez]

...and yes, I asked for a refund...........still waiting to here from him...won't hold my breath.

[Anubis]

You dont have it in Beta do you

Still using that thing eh pugsy.

[fifties]

The Dames case was the one GS2 and I were discussing earlier here on what constitutes a "Shotgun pleading". This is a DA case where they had server logs of Defendant's IP connecting to Justin's server. The Defendant also claimed that the mere posession of a "Code" does not in itself constitute a violation. Here are the relevant Docs, hope it can help somebody.

Dames Complaint.pdf
Dames motion to dismiss.pdf
Dames plaintiff oposition to Motion to Dismiss.pdf
Dames Stipulated Motion to Dismiss.pdf

I tried my best to keep them in order.

That was a beautiful defense, and could serve as a blueprint for anyone else.
Here they actually had goods on him via server logs, and still couldn't get a judgment...Brilliant!

I also like where they pointed out that the signal had already been decrypted before the end user received it, so he wasn't in any violation of intercepting an encrypted transmission, and that DN was only guessing as to how an IKS system works.

TY Alex!