DN $3500 demand

[Grave Digger]

They would have i.p.'s from ABA.

well then i guess only the stupid people will get caught, considering how easy it is to change your IP#

[Gunsmoke2 - GS2]

i dont see how that is possible,

how could they prove you are the same person from ABA, and the site where you bought the code?

the same forum nick doesn't mean anything, anybody could register the same name at a different site

If in Civil cases you had to prove everything 100% as some suggest no plaintiff would likely ever win. Some say you have to prove the defendant actually used the code like you have to be in the house and personally witness the defendant watching programming he was not authorized for.


However in Civil a judge can make a decision after seeing the evidence what is more likely than not. Even in Criminal circumstantial evidence if strong can be enough to convict.



GS2

[homer_™]

well then i guess only the stupid people will get caught, considering how easy it is to change your IP#

You only have to log in once with your real IP accidentally and they got you. Unless you change providers.

[sodusme]

You only have to log in once with your real IP accidentally and they got you. Unless you change providers.

LOL I was just thinking that.

It wouldn't matter how many times you changed your i.p. it would still all trace back to the same ISP under your same name.

[Tralman]

Any Canadians get ****ed

[Hannibalector]

LOL I was just thinking that.

It wouldn't matter how many times you changed your i.p. it would still all trace back to the same ISP under your same name.

which would require validation from the ISP to who'm the individual is by way of subpoena to that ISP not a panel from evidence gathered, it would be silly to say that the match wasn't verified by the ISP

[Hannibalector]

Any Canadians get ****ed

yes they're all fleeing to Alaska .......wooops

[alex70olds]

which would require validation from the ISP to who'm the individual is by way of subpoena to that ISP not a panel from evidence gathered, it would be silly to say that the match wasn't verified by the ISP

They match IP to PayPal, however, a simple subpoena to the ISP would also work.

[Grave Digger]

LOL I was just thinking that.

It wouldn't matter how many times you changed your i.p. it would still all trace back to the same ISP under your same name.

and what if the internet account is not under the same name as the person who buys the code?

example.....

somebody renting a room in a house buys a code, but the internet connection/account is under the home owners name?

a kid living at home buys a code, but the internet connection/account is under their parents name?

etc etc.....

just because you purchase a code, that doesn't mean you have an internet account of your own, you could have access to somebody elses account/internet usage

[sami1977]

Did anybody showed up in court since 2011 since this latter started. Could you represent your self in court or must need a lawyer

[Rongcon]

I just wonder who going to enforce the court judgment if DN going to win the case? The collection agency?

[azrak98]

hi guys i receive letter from to pay wrongful dish network and they said nfps it's ilegal so what i can do please

I moved your post here to where this is being discussed. I suggest you go to post #1 and start reading.

[cheff]

hi guys i receive letter from to pay wrongful dish network and they said nfps it's ilegal so what i can do please

I moved your post here to where this is being discussed. I suggest you go to post #1 and start reading.

You just received it today ? Did it come certified mail? Does it mention who you bought the codes from like Thomas Dixon? Wufman.

[iq180]

any body get this email from PP, new laws 2012, we need more info to prove who you are, SS# bank ACC# CC#,
so if PP cant prove who you are then DN cant use PP in court,
So I say this to PP, take that 8 USD that's on my ACC and stick where the sun don't shine, LOL
if you need a PP ACC then start a new one.

[Nostradamus]

any body get this email from PP, new laws 2012, we need more info to prove who you are, SS# bank ACC# CC#,
so if PP cant prove who you are then DN cant use PP in court,
So I say this to PP, take that 8 USD that's on my ACC and stick where the sun don't shine, LOL
if you need a PP ACC then start a new one.

that sounds more like one of those phishing emails than any kind of letter from paypal. Think about it, if you used PP for something then they would already have some of the info and could obtain any of the other things easily at that point.

and what good would creating a new account do? other than to give them the same info all over again